View Full Version : edelbrock or holley
Using the same size carb which is better for street ?
joe69standard
03-09-2004, 02:38 PM
i will never use a holly, i have worked on many of them and they need ocstant attention. I would get the Edlebrock preformer, its a very nicly built carb, and you can do allot with it.
welcome to z28 dot com!
-Joe
Blind_Rabi
03-09-2004, 02:43 PM
joe gettin the job done again! you know everything
joe69standard
03-09-2004, 02:58 PM
Thanks man!
I just love it when posts start to pick up pace in the first gen section!!!
:cool:
Ryatt-Motion
03-09-2004, 03:08 PM
Yuck, cough, cough!! The AFB/Edelbrock carbs are pure junk. They can't handle any kind of a cam or any mods for that matter. Joe is right when he says that Holly's require a lot of attention, but they are the best most reliable carbs I have ever worked on. I myself just purchased my 5th Holly, the Pro HP-750 DP. If you are building a mild street engine, I would look into a Street Avenger Series Holly. We have used many of these, and they work awsome right out the box. If you go with a Demon you can even taylor the venturi's and the boosters to your liking. The Edelbrock offers no such thing. It's all up to you, sorry to disagree with you Joe, but I have worked on AFB/ Edelbrocks, and Holly's for as many years as you have been alive, and I have always won my races with a Holly.
Big Evil..
joe69standard
03-09-2004, 03:16 PM
I cant always be right! :rolleyes:
it'll be a preformer on my 350 fer sher!!! :D
working on a carb when a street/strip 84' monte is idling at 1500 is not very fun!!! mabey i just got a bad sterotype for them, my uncles truck used to be a pain, but then he got a preformer never had a problem, but its not a street/strip truck if it goes fast it will need allot of attention!! So i suppose a holly is for you! :D
but id get a demon carb and send it out to barry grant to get it blueprinted for a few hundred!! OHH it hurts me just thuinking about all that power!
-joe
Dan69Z
03-09-2004, 04:41 PM
Joe -
Got to agee with you regarding the Edelbrock! My '69 Z/28 came with a Holley 600 and although it was running OK it didn't needed lots of attention. I went ahead and got a new Edelbrock Performer series 600 and bolted it on and have been a happy camper ever since. I was a Holley man for many years, but I think Edelbrock has finally got it right and performance and gas mileage improvements have convinced me it's the way to go.
"Check Six"
mikemitchell
03-09-2004, 05:14 PM
I BELIEVE THE HOLLEY IS THE BEST CARB MADE. UNLESS YOU LET IT SIT FOR A LONG TIME THE GAS WILL EVAPORATE OUT OF THE VENT TUBES. THEN THE GASKETS WILL SHRINK. PUTTING A POWER VALVE BLOW-OUT PROTECTOR IN YOU SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM. THE EDELBROCK IS FINE FOR A FAIRLY STOCK MOTOR. BUT DO YOU REALLY THINK THE EDELBROCK IS GOING TO BE MAINTANANCE FREE???
Ryatt-Motion
03-09-2004, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by mikemitchell
I BELIEVE THE HOLLEY IS THE BEST CARB MADE. UNLESS YOU LET IT SIT FOR A LONG TIME THE GAS WILL EVAPORATE OUT OF THE VENT TUBES. THEN THE GASKETS WILL SHRINK. PUTTING A POWER VALVE BLOW-OUT PROTECTOR IN YOU SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM. THE EDELBROCK IS FINE FOR A FAIRLY STOCK MOTOR. BUT DO YOU REALLY THINK THE EDELBROCK IS GOING TO BE MAINTANANCE.
Preach it brother!
joe69standard
03-09-2004, 06:12 PM
yikes, fists are gonna be flying soon!!! :D :D
Ryatt-Motion
03-09-2004, 07:56 PM
Joe I'm not tring to start a Carb war here, but go to the track. How many people do you see with Edelbrock/AFB carbs. Not a whole lot. The Holly is far easier to fine tune. Take a Demon for example (Note, Demons fall under the catagory of Holly's because they are built on the same design and use Holly replacement parts.) The demon comes with concetri-cast desgn, billett main body, base blate, and metering blocks. You can change the air bleeds, boosters and venturi's. They can come with or without a choke and a choke horn for that matter, and feature 4 corner mixture screws. I don't see the Edelbrock offering that. If you want to play with the metering rods, you have to practically gut the whole carb down, and wait for replacement parts to be ordered. The worst thing a Holly has going for it is the older models that don't have power valve blowout protectors and even that can be retrofitted. Parts are more accessible for the Holly. And a typical 750 DP can be calibrated to run on a mundane small block all the way up to a decent size big block. "It's just a better carb" Believe me I know your frustration, I too at one time or another swore I would never own another Holly, but I went out and bought every book I could get my hands on, and talked to every tuner I could. I am confident that I know a little bit about Holly's and how to make em' run. My older brother will tell you as well and he is a 22 year veteran and ASC mechanic, Holly is the only name trusted.
Big Evil..
joe69standard
03-09-2004, 08:06 PM
just messing around a little, every you said is true, when i look through my summit book, they have so many holly parts to upgrade for better performance. If this person wants a street motor, then you are right, get the holly! LIke you said, its easy to build on, just look throught the summit catalog, LOADED with holly hopp ups. Im not building a street motor, and it was really my error not reading the entire post when it said street. Your still the king, no one can beat you!!!!!!! :D :D :D
:bow:
Ryatt-Motion
03-09-2004, 08:24 PM
Oh stop it Joe!! Your too much, it's your world, I'm just a squirl trying to get a nut! LOL!!! To be quite honest with you for daily driving and cars that live in traffic, I highly reccomend a GM Quadrajet. Before I sold my Chevelle, I was having a Q-jet Bluprinted fir that car because the Holly worked great don't get me wrong, they just don't like getting hot. Also mine had a choke horn delete and some big ass jets. I have a friend that can make a Q-jet out perform a Holly on any given day, it's a recipe only he knows and he's taking it to the grave with him.
joe69standard
03-09-2004, 08:31 PM
You'd better be careful, if its my world and your a squirrel, your dead, my .22 bolt will make quick work of you!! LOL JKJKJKJKJK
i wouldnt shoot you ROTFLMAO!!!
yup its either the q jet or the preformer, but i thought the two were very similar (??)
Ryatt-Motion
03-09-2004, 08:33 PM
No, the Q-jet is a spreadbore design, a PIA to work on, but can support a lot of abuse. Oh yeah, I'm not just any squirrel, I'm Big Evil. :)
mikemitchell
03-09-2004, 09:09 PM
YOUR RIGHT RYATT, A Q JET TUNNED PROPERLY IS AWSOME ON THE STREET. THEY HAVE EXCELANT THROTTLE RESPONCE.
Ryatt-Motion
03-09-2004, 09:17 PM
Right again mikemitchell!
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