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Old 11-08-2009, 12:44 AM
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Jay Leno "Z28"... speculation

Here is a Jay Leno concept... 3.6L v6 twin turbo Camaro.





Not sure if I would dig a twin turbo V6 being a "Z28"...
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:03 AM
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Jay's right, it's got that mix of green and power. And i'd say it retains muscle roots. You don't necessarily need a V8 for it to be beefy and "american". Plus with a better weight distribution, it's better handling! For those doubting the V6 in a Z28...don't forget this V6

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Old 11-08-2009, 01:06 AM
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I understand the whole concept...

But I have always been a " there is no replacement for displacement" type of guy
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:14 AM
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But I have always been a " there is no replacement for displacement" type of guy
Yeah. But GM has to adapt. And there is a replacement for displacement; nitrous or forced induction. Haha! Sure displacement is the easy route, but if you can modify the engine with the cam/heads/FI to run as efficiently as possible to match the numbers a big displacement engine, you're going to end up saving yourself from the "troubles" mated with a big engine (environmental..etc.). That's what Europeans have been doing for years. They take a 4 liter V8 and make it put out ridiculous hp. Mind you, they have different environmental standards, but still. It's about time american car companies step up to the plate.

The camaro seems to be doing that so far with the 300 hp V6 and i think that is a wise choice on their part. Continuing to please the public with the environmental standard, and the performance standard only allows for them to have continued success. Aka:cooler and cooler camaros for us to enjoy. Sema showcased the fact that Gm is trying hard to please the consumer. It made me happy to see that. I've been irritated at the lack of Gm ingenuity and my outlook has begun to change lately, and i think that's reflective as an overall view of the american people as well.
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:27 AM
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It isnt that I am just old school and dont care for the new advancements in technology. The main problem with a small displacement engine vrs a larger one is torque. Smaller engines make horsepower with high RPM's and dont produce alot of torque. While a big cube engine will make monster torque which give you alot more tire shreading capabilities without having to work as hard.
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:30 AM
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Not to mention... I just prefer the sound of a nice throaty V8 vrs a V6. I have never heard any 4 or 6cyl engine that has impressed me.
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Not to mention... I just prefer the sound of a nice throaty V8 vrs a V6.
Well I can't argue that one. I love the sound of a nice V8. I dunno about the torque thing. As a general rule, i'd say you're right , but hopefully GM can make something happen that'll appease the masses who want their Z28 again.
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Old 11-08-2009, 07:41 AM
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I HOPE GM doesn't decide to go with it for the Z28 model ... it would kinda blow my plans because I wouldn't buy it with the V6 in it. I'm pretty sure they won't though, because they have already signed off on the LSA/M6 package for the Z28. I like the body style of the car and the overall aesthetics. It looks really nice.

On a side note ... Jay is a huge car guy and I respect him for it immensely, but aren't the Camaros made in Canada? He says toward the end of the clip, "And the best thing about them is they are made right here in America." Come on Jay!
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:28 AM
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Not sure if I would dig a twin turbo V6 being a "Z28"...


what about the turbo v6 trans-am?
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Old 11-08-2009, 09:46 AM
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well i would not buy a t/t v6 z28 that is only making well into the 400 hp numbers. that is not much better then the ss right now and with tq numbers usullay better in the v8 i am sure it would out run the z28 that may make more hp but less tq with a t/t v6.
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what about the turbo v6 trans-am?
I thought the 4.9L Turbo T/A was a small V8? Or was there another model I'm not aware of? My memory slips so, please enlighten me
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It isnt that I am just old school and dont care for the new advancements in technology. The main problem with a small displacement engine vrs a larger one is torque. Smaller engines make horsepower with high RPM's and dont produce alot of torque. While a big cube engine will make monster torque which give you alot more tire shreading capabilities without having to work as hard.

Another thing would be that the eingine would be more complicated with this setup too. I prefer a V8 in my vehicles because most of the time they are a simple setup. Besides the stupid DOHC type setup V8's that Ford seems to like using...
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Old 11-08-2009, 02:23 PM
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No no no no no the Z28 should remain a V8 as always, please dont ruin it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This car should be called a TTRS. Twin Turbo Rally Sport.
And it may out-handle the heavier car but once you turbo a Z or an SS, even a single turbo, this concept car gets put back to square one so im not that impressed!
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I thought the 4.9L Turbo T/A was a small V8? Or was there another model I'm not aware of? My memory slips so, please enlighten me

nope, 3.8L v6. (1989)
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