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Old 01-22-2003, 08:00 PM
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hi all, i just recently purchased a 98 z28. So far, i have installed a stealth air induction and a hooker cat-back system. i have around $800 and i dont know what to do next. I would appreciate some suggestions on how to add some more power with $800
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Old 01-22-2003, 08:24 PM
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Buy a nitrous kit and MTI air lid. That should put you real close to the amount you have to spend.
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Old 01-22-2003, 09:19 PM
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Dont put a nitrous kit on a stock motor, youll run the risk of blowing it up because a stock motor cant handle nitrous as well as a modified motor. Maybe the next best thing you can do and its relativly cheap is a set of pulleys. Should cost you about 200, and you can probly expect about 8hp from it. A throttle body would be another good upgrade, that will run u about 400 and you should notice about the same as the pulleys. That puts you about to your limit for now, with the last 200 id look at maybe doing an MSD 6AL igniton or if you have a M6 get a short throw shifter. The MSD will give you quicker throttle response but hardly if any power gain, and of course you wont gain anything from the shifter, but those are both worth while upgrades, id do the shifter before id do the ignition. Or you could get a set of gears 3:73 if you have an A4 or 4:10s if you have an M6, that will eat up most of your budget but you will def notice the differance. Dont start fooling with nitrous and blowers until you have made the internals of your engine stronger (forged rods, cam,forged pistons, ETC)so you can fully optimize it and not blow your motor. Good luck.

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Old 01-22-2003, 11:36 PM
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Dont put a nitrous kit on a stock motor, youll run the risk of blowing it up because a stock motor cant handle nitrous as well as a modified motor. Maybe the next best thing you can do and its relativly cheap is a set of pulleys. Should cost you about 200, and you can probly expect about 8hp from it. A throttle body would be another good upgrade, that will run u about 400 and you should notice about the same as the pulleys. That puts you about to your limit for now, with the last 200 id look at maybe doing an MSD 6AL igniton or if you have a M6 get a short throw shifter. The MSD will give you quicker throttle response but hardly if any power gain, and of course you wont gain anything from the shifter, but those are both worth while upgrades, id do the shifter before id do the ignition. Or you could get a set of gears 3:73 if you have an A4 or 4:10s if you have an M6, that will eat up most of your budget but you will def notice the differance. Dont start fooling with nitrous and blowers until you have made the internals of your engine stronger (forged rods, cam,forged pistons, ETC)so you can fully optimize it and not blow your motor. Good luck.
Sorry, but nitrous when used properly is actually safe on these or any other car. It is best to use different plugs w/a smaller gap, upgraded ignition system, and upgraded fuel system(adj. fuel pressure regulator will work just fine). I've seen my ls-1 owners do only one or none of the above and their cars are still going strong and driven everyday. Remember, don't get too greedy w/the nitrous. True, nitrous is safer on a "built motor" than on a stock motor. The ASP pulley and TB work, but you can get your stock TB ported/polished a lot cheaper and accomplish the same feat. The ASP pulley doesn't appear to work as good as it's suppposed to. I agree w/you on gear choices.
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Old 01-23-2003, 01:34 AM
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Sorry, but nitrous when used properly is actually safe on these or any other car. It is best to use different plugs w/a smaller gap, upgraded ignition system, and upgraded fuel system(adj. fuel pressure regulator will work just fine). I've seen my ls-1 owners do only one or none of the above and their cars are still going strong and driven everyday. Remember, don't get too greedy w/the nitrous. True, nitrous is safer on a "built motor" than on a stock motor. The ASP pulley and TB work, but you can get your stock TB ported/polished a lot cheaper and accomplish the same feat. The ASP pulley doesn't appear to work as good as it's suppposed to. I agree w/you on gear choices.
Sure anything is possible to do, but thats also like sayin u can run a 20lbs blower on a stock motor, it might blow, it might not, but the odds are not in your favor in the long run. And upgrading the fuel and ignition will cost more then he can budget right now. And how can you not help but not get greedy on the nitrous, my foot would hardly leave the floor. Thats like saying stop after 6 beers so you wont get drunk. Ive always seen great results on the pully, maybe its differant from an LT1 to an LS1 on gains, but i would doubt it, HP for dollar thats still one of the best mods. Porting and polishing the stock TB is cheap, but it is also cheap. Spend the extra money and get it done right, but thats just how Id do it.
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Old 01-24-2003, 08:23 AM
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Forget the pulleys, forget the throttle body, get some Hooker Lond tube headers, their y-pipe, and some o2 sims to get rid of the cats. If you dont have an aftermarket shifter, get one, best mod I ever did.....Check out suspension upgrades also, they make a difference in your handling performance too.....shop around and get to know the parts better before you buy, you dont want to buy something you dont know about!
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Old 01-24-2003, 11:03 AM
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Sure anything is possible to do, but thats also like sayin u can run a 20lbs blower on a stock motor, it might blow, it might not, but the odds are not in your favor in the long run. And upgrading the fuel and ignition will cost more then he can budget right now. And how can you not help but not get greedy on the nitrous, my foot would hardly leave the floor. Thats like saying stop after 6 beers so you wont get drunk. Ive always seen great results on the pully, maybe its differant from an LT1 to an LS1 on gains, but i would doubt it, HP for dollar thats still one of the best mods. Porting and polishing the stock TB is cheap, but it is also cheap. Spend the extra money and get it done right, but thats just how Id do it.
Are you insinuating that I'm not doing it the right way. I have access to milling machines, lathes, calipers, and many other tools needed to do it the right way, so I don't have to pay $400 for a stock type unit that had the same thing done to it, but you can. Don't get me wrong, the aftermarkets are nice and done right, but I can do the same thing since I have access to the proper equipment. Most people don't go over 8psi on stock motors and that's w/an intercooler. I understand what you're talking about on the nitrous. You have it, you want to use all the time. I've seen improvements w/the pulley also, but some poeple want to claim outrageous #'s w/using them and nothing else.
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Oh and by the way, I run a 100 shot NX MAF kit on my stock motor, and it does fine. I would not want to try anything more than a 100 shot though.
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you can run a dry shot 125 all day and night with no problems, go higher,well, you get the pic. If you run the wet, no more then 100 or say buy buy. If you stay in those ranges for the LS1's, your good all year and everyday, go over, and your motor will be done before the end of summer. also, there is enough diffrence between a LS1 and a LT1, so recommending LT1 mods not a good thing, in my eyes, that like trying to mod a beetle bug to match a Porsh. the LS1 was stated in a report I read somewhere that its capable of producing up to 700hp naturally, but didn't go into detail on how to do it. I love all camaro's the same and think all owners are great, but the fastest way to make enimies, is by giving wrong info to a new guy when you have one thing and he has onther, the best thing to do would be to tell him or her, to check out various sites and chat with those that own that kinda car and motor package. just my .02, not giving it for debait.
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Yes mine is a 100 wet shot.
I agree about the info though, we are talking about LS1s hear now, so if anyone reading this applies this info to an LT1 they are mistaken that the info hear is intended for them.
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start w/ bolt ons and work your way up. headers,maf,pulleys,bellow,air lid,tb,plugs and wires(its a 1998 right?), sub frames, stb, shifter,etc. yes, if you want nitrous get it. but id go w/ all bolt ons 1st. and then if you need more, go w/ nitrous. you said you only have 800.00 so what do you do if it blows on you? being its a 1998 model eventually the motor is going to give nitrous is only going to help that. yes, if used correctly it can be safe, but if you dont have the money to fix it (and im not saying you dont) if it does give(and ive seen this more than once) i wouldnt risk it. just my .02 good luck.
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I would probably buy a Hyper'chip: $250.00- adds 15 to 20hp
Headers: $300.00- adds 20hp
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$550.00- adds 35 to 40hp


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I would probably buy a Hyper'chip: $250.00- adds 15 to 20hp
Headers: $300.00- adds 20hp
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$550.00- adds 35 to 40hp


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Thats only going to wrk on a LT1 car, LS1's don't have a chip.
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Thanks for the correction
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