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Old 12-11-2003, 12:41 AM
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Man you guys are gonna get pissed

Well i probably don't belong here especially since i used to drag race mustangs, and now drive an bmw, but i have to educate myself on ym new project, i also wanted to share it with u. www.Vorshlag.com puts an ls6 engine and a t56 trans into a e36 bmw. there are many discusstions that take place about predicted quarter mile times, i like to think realistic. a e36 is roughly 3000pds, the weight of the ls6 is not confirmed but they say it will make the car 70 pounds heavier then it originally was, with a 4 or 6 cylinder, this is due to the aluminum block of the chevy. To stay on topic the times are abouit mid 5's 0-60, and about high 12's in quarter mile. what do u think
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Old 12-11-2003, 12:25 PM
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I would say with good traction and a properly set up suspension it would pull low 12s. My car that is an LS1 not an LS6 so a little less power ran 13.08 with a lid and filter, that at 3600+ pounds race weight. so you would be 6 to 7 tenths faster just due to weight, then a couple more tenths due to the LS6.
That is a cool project, and yes you are in the right place, I would love to here more about it.
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Old 12-11-2003, 01:52 PM
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thanks for the support, i wil definatly keep you updated, i am going to spend some time of these forums to learn about problems and mods for the ls1-ls6 engines. to me the greatest thing about these engines is the cheap parts that get u good gain comepared to a bmw which you spend thousands on just to gain 10 hp and proably gain nothing on a quarter mile time.
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Old 12-11-2003, 02:07 PM
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Well you can check my sig for some ideas. They deffinatly improve 1/4 mile times.
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Old 12-11-2003, 06:31 PM
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what's your quarter mile? and 0-60. the only i problem i see in this bmw conversion is they will be using a e46 differential with like a 3.25 gear ratio and to change that diff. it cost over $1500 on parts alone. i am a DIY'er so labor isn't usally a problem. before dropping the engine in i was thinking of putting a nice header system, just b/c that would be the biggest pain if i were to wait till the engine was in the car, dont u agree?
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Old 12-14-2003, 09:55 PM
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You would have to get a custom made set of headers.
My best 1/4 mile with just a lid, filter, and exhaust cutout I ran 12.85 @111mph. The new mods have not been on when the track is open, and my car is down now so I can build a big bore motor.
I think what you are doing is VERY COOL, make sure you take it to a open track day and spank all the other cars! They will sh#t when they hear your car blowing by them on the track!
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Old 12-14-2003, 11:05 PM
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i know, i am looking for a donor car right now. there are two others that have started this and they will be the first, i plan on wait till they finish the conversion and see what problems they run into so i wont have to worry about it. hehe. i was just thinking tonight, how would this engine do on a road course? i mean this engine is suppose to be comparable to a zo6 and they race those on a track, would be interesting to see an american engine beat a foreign engine on a track as well as quarter mile
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Old 12-15-2003, 12:17 PM
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Well that engine is not comparable to a Z06. The Z06 has 405 hp, your engine has 345 hp.
It will do great on a road course, think toruqe!!! You will be able to power out of the corners way better!
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Old 12-15-2003, 10:12 PM
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what does the zo6 have that a ls6 doesn't? i am overly excited about this project, i should probably wait and the test results will be on their way, and i wont even ahve to ask questions. but its still fun to imagine.
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Old 12-16-2003, 12:37 AM
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No the Z06 is different, like I said it has 405 hp the LS6 has 345.
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No the Z06 is different, like I said it has 405 hp the LS6 has 345.
?? The LS6 (405hp) is the engine specifically developed for the Z06, the LS1 is realistically around 350 despite ratings from 305 to 345 from the factory.
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Old 12-18-2003, 06:23 PM
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?? The LS6 (405hp) is the engine specifically developed for the Z06, the LS1 is realistically around 350 despite ratings from 305 to 345 from the factory.
No it is not. That is what I am trying to say. The LS6 was in all Fbodies and Corvettes from 01 and up. The Z06 motor is different than the LS6, it is a varient of it.
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Old 12-19-2003, 03:49 PM
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No it is not. That is what I am trying to say. The LS6 was in all Fbodies and Corvettes from 01 and up. The Z06 motor is different than the LS6, it is a varient of it.
The RPO codes on my 2002 F-body says it has an LS1 in it. Granted the LS1 in '01 and '02 has the same intake manifold that was changed for the LS6, and some, including mine, have the block developed for the LS6, but is is definitely not an LS6. I wish it were so. The heads and cam are different from the LS6, the head is the same as the earlier LS1s, the cam on the '01-'02 is the LQ4 truck cam, which flattened the torque curve a little.
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Old 12-19-2003, 04:38 PM
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Like pg318 said the ZO6 has the LS6 and the C5s and F-bodies had the LS1s. The 01 and 02 F-bdies did have the LS6 intake manifold which basically means no EGR and different cam. Some of the F-Bodies and C5s did have the ZO6 block, but nit the ZO6 internals and heads, so it's basically still an LS1.
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Ok, I see what you are saying. I am just used to calling them LS6s. You are right.
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